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Very upset - What do I do now?


I turned the radio on this morning as usual to find that my favorite part of 11m (26 MHz) has gone in a hail of PLT home hub/BT plug noise from a new installation at a neighbors, in fact it's not just 11m, it starts at 6MHz and is across the entire spectrum until 26.5MHz.

I know there has been lots of posts here and there and advice on what action to take and petitions, but to be honest I never paid too much heed as it was not affecting me.

Well the shoes on the other foot now, so what do I need to do?, and who can I complain too? I will appreciate any advice from those with similar problems.

If there are any petitions against this technology, please send a link to me also if you have one. Thanks

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Re: Very upset - What do I do now?


Damn!

Theres a link on here somewhere to the petition site.

Do you know the location of the source? Are they approachable?

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Re: Very upset - What do I do now?


When it happened to me I went to the OFCOM website and submitted a complaint report about it, later that evening I had a phone call from them to which i explained further details and even let the guy have a listen to it over the phone, he could tell exactly what it was!
my instance was so bad it was taking all my portable radios out on AM (broadcast band) and spots on FM just by getting close to any household wiring or switches plugs etc...
they require that you have an Outdoor antenna and that the signals are above so many db.
write down your worst hit frequencies.
they will check your equipment, but don`t worry, just say you`re an avid SW listener, even better if you have your Ham ticket (I don`t have one), I disconnected the Mic from the set as well.
then after some tests they`ll go walk-abouts with a scanner set to your worst hit freq, and have a telescopic dipole to track down the source.
then they get a knock at the door emoticon
they`re given 28 days to cease this interference, and BT is also notified.
BT comes out to them, adjusts their PLT stuff and that should stop the noise, OFCOM will also check up on you to make sure everything is OK again.

that`s how it worked out for me anyway, your millage may vary, Good Luck! emoticon

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Re: Very upset - What do I do now?


found these for you:

http://www.rsgbshop.org/acatalog/Spectrum_Defence_Fund.html

http://www.ban-plt.co.uk/

http://consumers.ofcom.org.uk/tell-us/

http://www.mds975.co.uk/Content/amateur_radio_BPL_interference.html


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Re: Very upset - What do I do now?


its a pain, but dont give in on radio
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Re: Very upset - What do I do now?


complain to ofcom, my plt was notched out of the ham bands but was stil an issue as i like goin out of band, lucky for me the neighbours got new technology and its gone now... phone ofcom and just make sure any illegal radio kit is out of the way emoticon

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Bloody hell Patrick, that is something your really don't want next door. I nearly gave it all up as a bad job until I discovered what was causing it in my case. Ofcom were contacted via their online complaints form and the next day I was contacted to clarify the type of interference.

A week or so later a field engineer came around, identified the cause and got the offending units switched off, which were part of a BT Vision setup.

I strongly recommend you pop along to the UKQRM site and join up:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/UKQRM/
This is where all the activists hang out, and there are some good technical and legal guys looking at this specific problem - it's what the group exists for.

Mention where you live and that you have just had a pair of these things installed, and ask for advice on what to do - the legislation may be a bit different over there and in any case things have changed (not for the better) since I had my problem.

One big 'fly in the ointment' now is that ofcom seem to be trying to wriggle out of the mess they have allowed and seem intent on passing the buck on to the BBC, who will pass it back to Ofcom.

If you know your neigbours well maybe you could try talking to them, but if they bought these devices for networking, rather than them being supplied as part of a BT Vision package you may have problems, in which case consider going the official route.

Yes, making the connection using cat5 cable cures the problem completely, as does wi-fi. The problem you may be up against is that the neighbour may not want 'messy cables' laying about on the floor in which case it could be a stalemate and difficult to resolve easily, but you have rights written into law although it may take some wrangling before you get action.

Goes without saying that your station must be legal so remove anything dodgy from sight before lodging a complaint.

Your best angle of attack is interference to the amateur bands, but I expect the units are notched out there. Has the noise floor on the amateur bands risen? If so, use that fact. Importantly, do you get interference on 5MHz? If you do, complain about that as you are, of course, very interested in the '5MHz Experiment', aren't you?? (Google it if you feel you should know more.)

You can't transmit there unless you have a full licence and have got an NoV for that band, but SWL reports are very important to those involved.

Interference to CB is at the moment being brushed aside so don't bother mentioning that unless you do so in passing, don't make it the main complaint.

Let us know (and UKQRM) every dodgy turn these jokers make to try to wriggle out of this one.

Good luck.

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