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A little help with my set up!


Hi guys, decided to start properly this year....

Got a Major-M588 running around 20W SSB into a 1/2 wave dipole...

Had a Zetagi poweramp but I think it's dead.

Basically, we're not in the highest place.. (Shillington nr Hitchin, Herts) parents won't let me mound the aerial on our chimney so I've put it on the back of our garage and it's high enough... Was picking up Brazil, South Pacific stations, Canary Islands and others this eve.

For anyone to be able to hear me what's the best bet.. persistence and hoping for good conditions or mount something in the loft or get a poweramp anyway?

Any help appreciated.

Cheers

Toby :-)

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Three things to consider...

1) Antenna
2) Antenna
3) Antenna

Its not about power! No point throwing 500w into a bit of wet string!

Decide what your budget is and then we can advise you whats best in that range.

I'm assuming you have no space for a beam, consider a vertical like a Sirio 827 or an iMax 2000, both fantastic antennas and should easily out-perform a dipole mounted in the same position.

You will get contacts on the dipole for sure, but that'll be down to the good prop rather than the antenna, often you'll find that the station your talking to has a decent antenna system, meaning it's their antenna doing most of the heavy-lifting, so just imagine the contacts you'd get if you improved your own antenna?

73 fella de 26TM175, Craig

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Hi Craig,

Brill, yes I thought antenna might be the first and best thing to think about first!

Budget is flexible.... had a quick look at both and certainly within reach.

What about the new Sirio Gainmaster? - http://www.gain-master.it/

And then I'm guessing where the cheapest place is to get poles/fittings etc?

Cheers

Toby

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As Craig says really, aerial is the best thing to get. The Sirio is a compromise, anything with a coil is a sort of compromise emoticon Go big, the bigger the better, theres no substitute for size on 11m emoticon

827 with all the radials if you're going vertical emoticon Or the Imax 2000

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I use an iMax and I am very happy with it. I am on the north east coast, so it gets battered every winter, but it's still going strong, infact, I now have two mounted on the house! haha

827s are very good antennas, probably a shade better than the imax, but IMHO, the iMax is much more durable.

My iMax lives on top of a 20ft pole on the apex of the house, the whole things stands around 75ft, with no guy ropes! I need durability, a big old 827 just wouldn't take the beating or be as stable in the wind at that height (un-guyed)

If your're mounting the 827 in the back garden, or relatively low levels (I think you said above the garage), then it should be fine and dandy, though they are very intimidating antennae for the neighbours to witness...oh and spend a few more quid for the noise suppression ring thing, it'll stop the 827 moaning like a cheap whore when the wind gets up :-P

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quote:

yamanx1 wrote:

As Craig says really, aerial is the best thing to get. The Sirio is a compromise, anything with a coil is a sort of compromise emoticon Go big, the bigger the better, theres no substitute for size on 11m emoticon

827 with all the radials if you're going vertical emoticon Or the Imax 2000



Thanks - but the 827 and 2000 are both verticals?!



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quote:

MrWeetabix wrote:

I use an iMax and I am very happy with it. I am on the north east coast, so it gets battered every winter, but it's still going strong, infact, I now have two mounted on the house! haha

827s are very good antennas, probably a shade better than the imax, but IMHO, the iMax is much more durable.

My iMax lives on top of a 20ft pole on the apex of the house, the whole things stands around 75ft, with no guy ropes! I need durability, a big old 827 just wouldn't take the beating or be as stable in the wind at that height (un-guyed)

If your're mounting the 827 in the back garden, or relatively low levels (I think you said above the garage), then it should be fine and dandy, though they are very intimidating antennae for the neighbours to witness...oh and spend a few more quid for the noise suppression ring thing, it'll stop the 827 moaning like a cheap whore when the wind gets up :-P



I think I'm planning to stick an Imax 2000 on a 20ft pole and see how that works... seems you can't go wrong?

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quote:

yamanx1 wrote:

The Sirio is a compromise, anything with a coil is a sort of compromise emoticon
827 with all the radials if you're going vertical emoticon Or the Imax 2000



Not strictly true, the 'coil' is infact an RF CHOKE or BALUN, which many people swear by, adding their own home-made ones just under an imax2000 or sirio 827. The gainmaster just has it built in, and it definately cuts down on the feedline (coax) radiating RF signals, it also makes the swr lower across a wider range of frequencies.

I would seriously consider a gainmaster if you can get it mounted high up well above the roof. If not, then a sirio 827 has been reported to work a lot better at lower heights than a gainmaster, or an imax for that matter (the imax also gets 'affected' more by being mounted low or close to a building).

Hope this helps buddy,
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What about the Thunder pole 5? I've heard some chatter that it does'nt catch so much noise as other glass fibre antennae.
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